{"id":3923,"date":"2007-03-25T12:00:00","date_gmt":"2007-03-25T10:00:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.westpark-gamers.de\/blog\/2007\/03\/25\/jati\/"},"modified":"2007-03-25T12:00:00","modified_gmt":"2007-03-25T10:00:00","slug":"jati","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.westpark-gamers.de\/blog\/2007\/03\/25\/jati\/","title":{"rendered":"Jati"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><\/p>\n<table align=\"right\" border=\"0\" cellpadding=\"0\" cellspacing=\"5\">\n<tr>\n<td align=\"center\">\n<form>\n<p><input style=\"font-weight:bold\" type=\"button\" value=\"listen to podcast\" onclick=\"location.replace('http:\/\/wpg.podspot.de\/files\/GermanGamingNewsJanuary102007.mp3')\"\/><\/p>\n<\/form>\n<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td align=\"center\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.westpark-gamers.de\/Ressourcen2\/jati_t.jpg\" width=\"250\" height=\"308\" border=\"0\" alt=\"\"\/><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr align=\"right\">\n<td>\n<table class=\"ybackgr\" align=\"center\" border=\"1\" cellspacing=\"0\" cellpadding=\"1\" width=\"255\">\n<tr>\n<td>Designer<\/td>\n<td align=\"right\">Keith Havens<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td>Publisher<\/td>\n<td align=\"right\">3M<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td>released<\/td>\n<td align=\"right\">1966<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td>Players<\/td>\n<td align=\"right\">2-4<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td>Playing Time<\/td>\n<td align=\"right\">20 minutes<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<\/table>\n<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td align=\"center\">\n<form>\n<p><input style=\"font-weight:bold\" type=\"button\" value=\"discuss in our forum\" onclick=\"location.replace('..\/PBLang\/index.php')\"\/><\/p>\n<\/form>\n<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<\/table>\n<h2><a href=\"http:\/\/luding.org\/Skripte\/GameData.py\/DEgameid\/2465\" target=\"_blank\">Jati<\/a><\/h2>\n<p style=\"font-style: italic\">by Moritz Eggert<\/p>\n<p>There is an organisation called the &#8220;Europ\u00e4ische Spielesammler Gilde&#8221; (the European<br \/>\nguild of game collectors) which tries to find all gamers who own the 3M-game &#8220;Jati&#8221;.<\/p>\n<p>3M games where actually American games that also were exported to Germany. They defined the term<br \/>\n&#8220;bookcase&#8221; game that later became so popular with Avalon Hill. Bookcase games are games<br \/>\nthat come in a handy format that is most comparable to a large book, which makes storage and<br \/>\nhandling very easy. Everybody who owns humongous Hasbro games like &#8220;Axis and Allies&#8221; in<br \/>\ntheir original edition knows what I&#8217;m talking about &#8211; it&#8217;s a pain in the donkey to actually<br \/>\nstore these games!<\/p>\n<p>But 3M was not only famous for its design, but also for its very good games, among them many<br \/>\nclassics like &#8220;Twixt&#8221; or &#8220;Acquire&#8221;, games that have endured until today.<\/p>\n<p>The original 3M games have become collector&#8217;s items for quite a while now, and Guenther has<br \/>\na <a href=\"http:\/\/www.rosenbaum-games.de\/\" target=\"_blank\">website<\/a> with lots of info about 3M games.<\/p>\n<p>Now there is a call for one of the rarest of rarest 3M games, the game &#8220;Jati&#8221; or<br \/>\n&#8220;Jaati&#8221;, I don&#8217;t know how it is pronounced.<\/p>\n<p>This is what the Geek writes:<\/p>\n<p>The last of the 3M Bookshelf Series to be produced. It is a very simple tile placement game. It<br \/>\nis a 2 or 4 player game, the four player rules consisting simply in a tournament.<\/p>\n<p>Only about 100 copies of this game were produced; they were all pre-production play test and<br \/>\nreviewers&#8217; copies and most were subsequently destroyed. The first run had a 1965 copyright and<br \/>\na 10 X 10 playing surface; the second run has a 1966 copyright and a 9 x 10 playing surface.<\/p>\n<p>Spielbox republished Jati in 1986.<\/p>\n<p>Not only was this game produced in my birth year, 1965, but now the European collector&#8217;s<br \/>\nguild wants to publish a picture of every owner of this rare game that they can find together with<br \/>\nhis\/her game on their website. So far they have found only very few people, so if you are one of<br \/>\nthe lucky owners, please write an email to admin@e-s-g.eu and send them your proud picture and<br \/>\nbecome part of the legend that was 3M.<\/p>\n<p>Here are the pictures so far collected: <a href=\"http:\/\/www.e-s-g.eu\/Sammlung%20Jati%203M.htm\" target=\"_blank\">http:\/\/www.e-s-g.eu\/Sammlung Jati 3M.htm<\/a> .<\/p>\n<p>Speaking of collections &#8211; in a recent Dice Tower show Sam and Tom talked about their collection<br \/>\nsizes, and there was general awe about Tom&#8217;s collection of 1000 plus games (if I remember<br \/>\ncollectly). Tom &#8211; you&#8217;re the man, there is no doubt about it, but I would like to give some<br \/>\nexamples of people that I know here in Munich.<\/p>\n<p>I myself have about the same number of games as Tom Vasel, although I constantly try to reduce<br \/>\nthis number via Ebay or &#8211; much less successfully, through Boardgamegeek. Hey, has anybody of you<br \/>\never sold a game via Boardgamegeek? I offered quite a lot of games, and I only got one request in 4<br \/>\nweeks, and that was for a game that I then had already sold at Ebay&#8230; Is the Geek Marketplace<br \/>\noverrated? Please discuss&#8230;.<\/p>\n<p>Among my games are also many roleplaying games from ye olden times, which perhaps don&#8217;t<br \/>\ncount, but also many microgames and small packet games which I especially collect, because they<br \/>\ndon&#8217;t take so much room.<\/p>\n<p>But I just pale in comparison to the aforementioned Guenther, who has a collection of &#8211; and<br \/>\nI&#8217;m not exaggerating &#8211; 4000plus games. Most of them rare German games, and practically all<br \/>\nversions of 1830 in existence. Guenther once visited me and looked at my collection which pretty<br \/>\nmuch takes over a complete room in our apartment, and he just said coolly &#8220;Is that<br \/>\nall?&#8221;.<\/p>\n<p>But even Guenther has to bow before Munich&#8217;s biggest collector, and that is Jo Weigand, head<br \/>\nof my gaming club the &#8220;Munich Spuiratzn&#8221;. Jo is a game critic from the very first days of<br \/>\nGerman gaming, and he kept practically every game he reviewed and bought many more in addition. His<br \/>\ncollection is 6000 games and growing, check that out and despair, my friends. And he is a very nice<br \/>\nchap in addition!<\/p>\n<p>I&#8217;m looking forward to hear more about weird game collector stories from you all, that will<br \/>\nbe interesting.<\/p>\n<p>I&#8217;m closing my little text with a recommendation to a Geek list that I enjoyed recently, the<br \/>\nlist &#8220;That is illogical, captain &#8211; illogical inconsistencies in otherwise fine games&#8221;<br \/>\n<a href=\"http:\/\/www.boardgamegeek.com\/geeklist\/18878\" target=\"_blank\">http:\/\/www.boardgamegeek.com\/geeklist\/18878<\/a><\/p>\n<p>It lists thematic weirdnesses that crop up especially in Euro games, that frankly don&#8217;t make<br \/>\nsense when one thinks about them in the context of a realistic simulation.<\/p>\n<p>To give you an example:<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;The sheriff in the card game &#8220;BANG!&#8221; doesn&#8217;t know who his deputies are.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;Hmm, I know I hired a deputy but I can&#8217;t remember which of you it is. I guess I will<br \/>\nwait and see who shoots at me.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>Or Age of Steam:<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;Let&#8217;s see&#8230;so I have this rail company, and I get the most points for finding the<br \/>\nleast efficient way of delivering these goods to a city?&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>Or St. Petersburg<\/p>\n<p>Some of the aristocrat upgrades are illogical:<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;Congratulations Judge. You&#8217;ve been promoted to Chamber Maid&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>Look for the link in the show notes and give Chris Haighton, the creator of the list, a big<br \/>\nthumbs up!<\/p>\n<p><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Designer Keith Havens Publisher 3M released 1966 Players 2-4 Playing Time 20 minutes Jati by Moritz Eggert There is an organisation called the &#8220;Europ\u00e4ische Spielesammler Gilde&#8221; (the European guild of game collectors) which tries to find all gamers who own the 3M-game &#8220;Jati&#8221;. 3M games where actually American games that also were exported to Germany. &hellip; <a href=\"https:\/\/www.westpark-gamers.de\/blog\/2007\/03\/25\/jati\/\" class=\"more-link\"><span class=\"screen-reader-text\">Jati<\/span> weiterlesen <span class=\"meta-nav\">&rarr;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[1],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-3923","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-spieleabende"],"views":50,"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.westpark-gamers.de\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/3923","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.westpark-gamers.de\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.westpark-gamers.de\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.westpark-gamers.de\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.westpark-gamers.de\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=3923"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.westpark-gamers.de\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/3923\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.westpark-gamers.de\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=3923"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.westpark-gamers.de\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=3923"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.westpark-gamers.de\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=3923"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}